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ebay resue/basket case....

Post by PicMatt » 19 Mar 2015 21:33

Hello
I have just brought an "MTX512" from ebay, it was only £52.... good news so far... then I opened it.

Please excuse the following (probable) errors, I have not owned a Memotech before (although have always wanted one since they came out, see my "introduction" for more info).

It seems like I have brought a "bitsa" (i.e. bits-of-this-bits-of-that). I "think" it has a MTX500 32K motherboard as shown here (library picture, not mine)... Image

And a memory card (not sure how big, probably 32K? if anyone can tell from my pitures, link later, please share!) as shown here...
Image

There is no ribbon cable between the (loose) keyboard and motherboard, and no 4way ribbon cable from the video connectors as shown in the first image.

There is no PSU included, but after looking at some very helpful sites, I have decided to use a DC PSU and some dc-dc converters (ebay again) they are cheap (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151311737680) and trying them, they seem very good.

It does have some free authentic cobwebs, every cloud ;)

If anyone is interested, I have uploaded some pictures here...

http://1drv.ms/1MNRNXd
http://1drv.ms/1BTSIjX
http://1drv.ms/1BTSTvF
http://1drv.ms/1BTSZDF
http://1drv.ms/1BTT7CQ

Regards



Matt :)

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Re: ebay resue/basket case....

Post by Dave » 19 Mar 2015 21:49

Hi,

nice photo - mmm, where have I seen that before ? :-)

your machine looks like a pretty common "MTX512", made (by Memotech) from an MTX500 computer board (32K RAM) with a 32K memory expansion board soldered to the internal edge connector.

It's a pretty common configuration

http://www.primrosebank.net/computers/m ... yboard.htm
http://www.primrosebank.net/computers/m ... spares.htm
http://www.primrosebank.net/computers/m ... _video.htm
http://www.primrosebank.net/computers/m ... mtxpsu.htm

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Dave

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Re: ebay resue/basket case....

Post by 1024MAK » 19 Mar 2015 23:35

The MTX needs a +12V, +5V, -5V and if you get a RS232 serial board, -12V supplies.

Most of the logic is powered from the +5V rail. I suggest you use a supply rated at 1.5A.

The 16k video DRAM chips need a +12V supply (main supply rail for them) and a -5V bias supply. If the -5V is lost, or not present, these DRAM chips can die. IIRC, some of the audio circuitry uses the -5V supply as well.

The plug-in video board also uses the +12V supply.

Mark

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Re: ebay resue/basket case....

Post by 1024MAK » 20 Mar 2015 00:08

@ Matt - is it your intention to have a power supply arrangement that replaces the on-board voltage regulator circuitry, or are you intending to supply voltages suitable for the on-board voltage regulator circuitry input terminals?

You may want to have a read of this thread: Building a replacement MTX PSU

If you want any more details, let me know and I will go and dig out the details.

Mark

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Re: ebay resue/basket case....

Post by Martin A » 21 Mar 2015 13:47

The keyboard cable is easy to replace, one "side" of a 40 way IDE cable does the job. Likewise the PAL board to MONITOR/"Hi-FI" ports is easy enough top make up.

http://primrosebank.net/computers/mtx/p ... _tu_nd.jpg

The PAL code on your memory board is 0LL
0 meaning it's programmed for a MTX500 with no other memory expansions.
the L's signify each of the 2 banks of chips expects a 3732L (as opposed to 3732H)

If you could find 8 3732L's the ram could be expanded from 64k to 96k, although there's no real benefit in doing that unless you use large arrays in Basic, as the former commercial software available is all for the 32k or 64k systems.

It might also work with 4164's though I've never tried it.

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Re: ebay resue/basket case....

Post by Crazyboss » 24 Mar 2015 10:17

Mark will it be possible to buy one of your replacement psu's ?
Maybe can be ready for next memofest ?
1024MAK wrote:@ Matt - is it your intention to have a power supply arrangement that replaces the on-board voltage regulator circuitry, or are you intending to supply voltages suitable for the on-board voltage regulator circuitry input terminals?

You may want to have a read of this thread: Building a replacement MTX PSU

If you want any more details, let me know and I will go and dig out the details.

Mark
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Re: ebay resue/basket case....

Post by 1024MAK » 25 Mar 2015 13:33

Of course you can buy one.

It will take me a while to build it.
Hopefully April will be a bit less busy than the last three months.

Mark

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Re: ebay resue/basket case....

Post by johnha » 21 Apr 2015 02:52

Dave wrote:Hi,nice photo - mmm, where have I seen that before ? :-)
Likewise, looks just like my old MTX512 - even down to the scratch on the far right of the base :)

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