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Re: No picture.

Posted: 23 Jul 2020 21:48
by Steven.G
As I'm waiting for the fuses it'll give me a chance to scrounge a 40w filament bulb from somewhere, but yes I can assemble that!

Steve..

Re: No picture.

Posted: 25 Jul 2020 12:53
by Steven.G
Amazing what a new fuse can do!! :roll:
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Re: No picture.

Posted: 25 Jul 2020 13:34
by stephen_usher
Yeah I had a similar issue with the MTX512 I got on eBay a few years ago. Changed the regulators and did more investigations, then discovered that I'd bought fuses which were an order of magnitude too small and that was why they kept blowing! D-oh!

Re: No picture.

Posted: 25 Jul 2020 13:52
by Steven.G
This one was hidden in the PSU the sneaky blighter! :?

Re: No picture.

Posted: 27 Jul 2020 21:02
by Dave
Hi Steve,

it appears that you have been very lucky that the failed fuse has not caused damage to the Video RAMs.

If my power supply simulation is anywhere near accurate, with the fuse blown, you would have exceeded the maximum voltage on Vbb of the VRAMs. The voltage there should be -5V, with a limit of -5.5v and likely reached around -6V with the blown fuse. (The -V supply rail would appear to have been running at around -28V! (Mark previously commented that the blown fuse, "severely affects the voltages inside the computer [and] has unintended consequences for the negative supply rail".) Fortunately, with no peripherals connected, nothing is actually connected to the -V line, so no damage will have been done there.

However, the 4116s VRAMs are a very common cause of video faults (corruption) on the MTX and are VERY sensitive to out of tolerance voltages. For the ongoing health of the machine, particularly in the event that the fuse blows again, you might want to consider removing its holder completely - or fitting the nail that I mentioned previously :lol:

regards
Dave

Re: No picture.

Posted: 27 Jul 2020 21:30
by Steven.G
OK I'll remove the fuse holder from the circuit and replace the DIN plug too.
The 40w bulb to test the PSU is due tomorrow.

I have only one question,,, why do you think the fuse is there? I'm pretty sure the PSU case hasn't been opened before.

Steve..

Re: No picture.

Posted: 27 Jul 2020 23:47
by Dave
I’m afraid I’ve no idea why it’s there.

If it WAS factory fitted, it may be something specific to Euro models, but I can’t think why. Euro plugs don’t have fuses like ours do, so I could see a need to provide safety protection in case the transformer developed a short and overheated, but you’d have expected a fuse to have been put on the primary side, and anyway, the thermal fuse Is there. I suppose a fault could pull more current than the cable could handle without tripping the thermal fuse though, an internal fuse could protect against that, but surely it should be on the primary side.

I do have a Euro PSU, but don’t really want to break the case trying to get into it.

Re: No picture.

Posted: 28 Jul 2020 11:06
by Steven.G
Well whatever the reason it's gone now. :!:

Re: No picture.

Posted: 28 Jul 2020 11:37
by Dave
:shock:

Re: No picture.

Posted: 28 Jul 2020 12:01
by Steven.G
Why the shocked face? You said to remove it!