I recently experimented with selling some MTX500 upgrade kits on ebay, however as we found upgrading the poor old MTX500 to an MTX512 is perhaps not as simple as it first seemed.
My kits , just consisted of 64k x 1 bit DRAMs ( 8 of ) and a GAL16V8. I don't believe anyone yet as successfully upgraded their MTX500. Thus I've renamed my kits.. the 'MTX500' destruction kit... I shan't be selling any more on ebay..
If anyone has successfully upgraded an MTX500 circuit board to MTX512... please leave a comment letting everyone else know how you did it.
http://memorum.mtxworld.dk/posting.php?mode=post&f=9#
MTX500 upgrades....
Re: MTX500 upgrades....
My problem was that the board got damaged desoldering the old memory chips.
It may be repairable.
I suspect in general its a hard thing to do.
I think the process itself will work, as I think I understand the hardware itself well enough.
Perhaps another less risky option is to create a new
RAM upgrade board, with a few TTL ICs and an SRAM chip.
{{{ Andy
It may be repairable.
I suspect in general its a hard thing to do.
I think the process itself will work, as I think I understand the hardware itself well enough.
Perhaps another less risky option is to create a new
RAM upgrade board, with a few TTL ICs and an SRAM chip.
{{{ Andy
{{{ Andy
Re: MTX500 upgrades....
I thought that I'd done a good enough job with the removal of the old chips and resoldering the new sockets...... but obviously not! I have not given up though and hope to be able to rescue mine too.
If only I'd known about Andy's hardware/software expertise beforehand, then an add-on board similar to what's in my "real" MTX512 would have been the way to go <sigh>.
regards
Dave
If only I'd known about Andy's hardware/software expertise beforehand, then an add-on board similar to what's in my "real" MTX512 would have been the way to go <sigh>.
regards
Dave
Re: MTX500 upgrades....
Hi,
I think this thread is dead, but for the sake of completeness, here is my final update....
I can confirm that I did not damage the board during the upgrade attempt, although I may have had a tiny short between a couple of pins on the new IC sockets at one point. With the sockets installed, new 64k RAM chips fitted and the board board cleaned and checked, the system would not operate with the 64K RAM chips.
However, by removing the RAM, leaving the sockets in place and installing one of Andy's new RAM cards http://www.nyangau.org/memcard/memcard.htm, the MTX now works again, now as an MTX512!
Thanks Andy!
Regards
Dave
I think this thread is dead, but for the sake of completeness, here is my final update....
I can confirm that I did not damage the board during the upgrade attempt, although I may have had a tiny short between a couple of pins on the new IC sockets at one point. With the sockets installed, new 64k RAM chips fitted and the board board cleaned and checked, the system would not operate with the 64K RAM chips.
However, by removing the RAM, leaving the sockets in place and installing one of Andy's new RAM cards http://www.nyangau.org/memcard/memcard.htm, the MTX now works again, now as an MTX512!
Thanks Andy!
Regards
Dave
Re: MTX500 upgrades....
OK - I lied !
On two counts . . . . .
Firstly, the last post was not my final update
Second, I must have damaged the board during the upgrade attempt - as I have now fixed it!
Yes, a successful upgrade using one of Lez's kits and a GAL programmed for me by Andy.
Herewith the evidence - yes, it really is the same machine, now with a fully working 64K of on-board RAM
regards
Dave
Full details here : http://primrosebank.net/computers/mtx/p ... pgrade.htm
On two counts . . . . .
Firstly, the last post was not my final update

Second, I must have damaged the board during the upgrade attempt - as I have now fixed it!
Yes, a successful upgrade using one of Lez's kits and a GAL programmed for me by Andy.
Herewith the evidence - yes, it really is the same machine, now with a fully working 64K of on-board RAM
regards
Dave
Full details here : http://primrosebank.net/computers/mtx/p ... pgrade.htm
Re: MTX500 upgrades....
Clap, clap, clap (never the right smilie is there...).
Well Done Dave
Mark
Well Done Dave

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Re: MTX500 upgrades....
After Dave & Martin's successful MTX 500 (64K)RAM upgrade some info for any Newbie wanting to do such an upgrade
To upgrade your MTX 500 to 64K RAM, you will need :
8 x 64k x 1 bit DRAMs these can be found / sourced from various sources the cheapest I saw was :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DRAM-64kx1-Dyna ... 3a9877c42d
A GAL16V8 (Memory decoder)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2pcs-GAL16V8D-2 ... 2802e3bdc6
DIL sockets (16pin & 20pin)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/20PCS-DIP-16-pi ... 5b14f932e8
http://www.ebay.com/itm/20PCS-DIP-20-pi ... 19d530accc
Then follow the instruction (carefully) on Dave's website:
http://primrosebank.net/computers/mtx/p ... pgrade.htm
To upgrade your MTX 500 to 64K RAM, you will need :
8 x 64k x 1 bit DRAMs these can be found / sourced from various sources the cheapest I saw was :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DRAM-64kx1-Dyna ... 3a9877c42d
A GAL16V8 (Memory decoder)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2pcs-GAL16V8D-2 ... 2802e3bdc6
DIL sockets (16pin & 20pin)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/20PCS-DIP-16-pi ... 5b14f932e8
http://www.ebay.com/itm/20PCS-DIP-20-pi ... 19d530accc
Then follow the instruction (carefully) on Dave's website:
http://primrosebank.net/computers/mtx/p ... pgrade.htm