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Does anyone have actual tape copies of Manic Miner and Jet Set Willy?

Posted: 15 Jul 2021 11:52
by SuperFella
Hello. I just mentioned this in a reply elsewhere but it seemed worth a post of its own. I’m trying to run MTX games through MESS on Retropie, and I’ve had a good amount of success by converting .MTX files into .WAVs with AppMake. (For some reason none of the already-existing .WAVs worked, but converting them from .MTX does.) But the two games I want most of all - the unique MTX ports of the Miner Willy games - are putting up a fight.

There only seem to be three .MTX files of the two titles in existence (MM, JSW and a QuickLoad version of JSW), and they all produce errors in AppMake. They still convert, and appear to be loading, but then crash at the end. (MM to a pink screen full of hexadecimal, JSW to a totally corrupted title screen.)

It would be really useful to have “true” .WAV versions, ie audio recorded directly from tape rather than converted from another encoded format, which clearly introduces the possibility of errors, like Google Translating something from English to Arabic and then back again. It would only take five minutes to do both games with any basic sound-recording app. Can anyone help?

(If it’s permitted by forum rules I’d be very happy to upload all the Retropie-friendly converted .WAVs I’ve made.)

Re: Does anyone have actual tape copies of Manic Miner and Jet Set Willy?

Posted: 15 Jul 2021 22:43
by thewiz
Hi SuperFella,

I have a number of wav files that I produced the mtx files from for both games, however I don't own the actual tapes. If you want to pm me your email, I can try and send them to you via a gmail link.

These two are probably going to stretch MESS as they both load a loading screen and play music while the main code is loading. I don't think this is done on anything else.

Paul.

Re: Does anyone have actual tape copies of Manic Miner and Jet Set Willy?

Posted: 15 Jul 2021 22:51
by thewiz
I should add that these don't use the $0aae call for loading. If memory servers they use a copy with a load of copy protection involving xor and the R register.

Re: Does anyone have actual tape copies of Manic Miner and Jet Set Willy?

Posted: 16 Jul 2021 09:47
by SuperFella
thewiz wrote: 15 Jul 2021 22:43 Hi SuperFella,

I have a number of wav files that I produced the mtx files from for both games, however I don't own the actual tapes. If you want to pm me your email, I can try and send them to you via a gmail link.
Done 🙂

Re: Does anyone have actual tape copies of Manic Miner and Jet Set Willy?

Posted: 25 Jul 2021 13:15
by kokkiklhs
So, how did it go SuperFella? Did the WAVs work OK, or just the same erratic behaviour?

Re: Does anyone have actual tape copies of Manic Miner and Jet Set Willy?

Posted: 25 Jul 2021 18:05
by SuperFella
They worked beautifully :)

Re: Does anyone have actual tape copies of Manic Miner and Jet Set Willy?

Posted: 18 Feb 2022 23:42
by Nassimbakir
hello ..
can i have a copy of those two games please .
nlim131@gmail.com

thanks

Re: Does anyone have actual tape copies of Manic Miner and Jet Set Willy?

Posted: 18 Jun 2022 21:43
by Nassimbakir
I wonder why nobody answers …😔

Re: Does anyone have actual tape copies of Manic Miner and Jet Set Willy?

Posted: 19 Jun 2022 14:40
by Dave
Nassimbakir wrote: 18 Jun 2022 21:43 I wonder why nobody answers …😔
Likely because
1. You did not ask anyone specifically, or
2. A couple of the previous posters to this thread only logged on months ago
(You can check their last long time by looking up their username)

Re: Does anyone have actual tape copies of Manic Miner and Jet Set Willy?

Posted: 20 Jun 2022 00:12
by Nassimbakir
thanks Dave, i will PM.